Hello,
I just bought a Medion MD 8800 with a NVidia Geforce 6700XL video card and a built in TV function: 4 TV connections (2x DVB-2 and 2x Analog)
According to the system info it is the famous Philips SAA7131.
Tried all setting as suggested in several topics. The sound does work.
During scanning flashes of channels are visible, not one is picked up though.
Since Chris TV is so much better then the standard TV program (fassst channel switching, resizing, etc.) I hope you can help me soon.

The log:
19:34:48.734: --------------------------------------------------------------
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV Professional version 4.70 ---
19:34:48.750: --- Today : 23-11-2005 ---
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV is starting now ... ---
19:34:48.750: --- Checking System ... ---
19:34:48.750: --- Operating System Found : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build(2600) with DirectX 4.09.00.0904
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV begining the graph filter ---
19:34:48.843: --- Video Window is rendered using VMR ---
19:34:48.843: Inf - Searching for DirectShow filters...
19:34:48.953: Inf - Image Processing Filter Found.
19:34:48.968: Inf - Deinterlace Filter Found.
19:34:49.000: Inf - Dump Filter Found.
19:34:49.015: Inf - Crop Filter Found.
19:34:49.031: Inf - Video Port Manager Filter Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - Wave Destination Filter Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - FFDShow Filter NOT Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - Search Done.
19:34:49.093: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.125: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.125: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Using : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.187: Inf - Creating the graph...
19:34:49.187: Inf - Searching ...
19:34:49.187: Inf - Setting Video Standard : 3
19:34:49.187: Inf - Done.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Voorbeeld" : Preview Video Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Vastleggen" : Capture Video Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Audio" : Audio Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - Capture Device - NO MPEG Hardware Encoder.
19:34:49.203: Inf - MPEG Hardware Encoder Disabled.
19:34:49.234: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:49.281: Inf - capture_pin_forced 1.
19:34:49.281: Inf1 - The Graph has been created.
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : Audio Renderer
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : VideoWindow1
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : TV Capture Filter
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Audio
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner
19:34:49.281: Err - Could not find IID_IAMCrossbar2 - required for some combo cards
19:34:49.281: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.281: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Tuner In : Pin : 3
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 3 : Pin : 4
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 4 : Pin : 5
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Decoder Out : Pin : 1
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Tuner In : 0
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Composite In : 1
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin S-Video In : 2
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar Pin Video Decoder Out : 0
19:34:49.296: --- ChrisTV is disabling MSP ---
19:34:49.296: --- ChrisTV is OK ---
19:34:49.296: Inf - Channels.ini file is present
19:34:49.296: Inf - Preparing Crossbar...
19:34:49.609: Inf - Playing graph...
19:34:50.906: Inf - Graph is Playing ...
19:34:50.906: Inf - Deinterlace/FFDShow Filter timer ...
19:34:51.906: Inf - Loading settings...
19:34:51.937: Inf - Creating Video Settings Window ...
19:34:51.968: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
19:34:52.156: Inf - Video Window - 7
19:34:52.218: Inf - View Change - Preview Resolution : 640x480
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 8
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 9
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 10
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 11
19:34:52.578: Inf - Video Window - 12
19:34:52.578: Inf - Video Window - 13
19:34:52.609: Inf - Video Window - 14
19:34:52.671: Inf - Video Window - 15
19:34:52.703: Inf - Loading Settings 10/19 .
19:34:52.937: Err - No sound device or input
19:34:52.937: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
19:34:52.937: Inf - Loading done.
19:34:52.937: Inf - Recreating graph - VMR9+Advanced.
19:34:52.984: Inf - NukeDown Completed.
19:34:53.000: inf - recreate_render_radio : 0
19:34:53.000: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:53.109: Inf1 - Deinterlace Filter added to the graph.
19:34:53.437: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.625: Inf - Creating Channel Settings Window.
19:34:53.625: Inf - Loading TV Icons...
19:34:53.625: Inf - Searching for available TV Icons ...
19:34:53.781: Inf - TV Icons added : 188
19:34:53.781: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.781: Inf - Loading channels ...
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done1.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done2.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Detecting modes available...
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Tunning last channel...
19:34:54.281: Inf - Last channel TV
19:34:54.281: Inf - Done.
19:34:54.281: Inf - Load channel settings...
19:34:55.109: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.109: Inf - Audio Crossbar
19:34:55.421: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.421: Inf - Country list...
19:34:55.468: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.671: Inf - Show Main Form...
19:34:55.671: Inf - Loading last settings.
19:34:55.687: Inf - The Channels Menu is being created now ...
19:34:55.718: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.718: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.718: Inf - Searching for available language files ...
19:34:55.718: Inf - Loading language ...
19:34:56.078: Inf - Done.
19:34:56.078: Inf - Dutch language loaded.
19:34:56.093: Inf - Show Main Form Ended
19:34:56.171: Inf - MPEG Filters NOT Found.
19:34:56.328: Inf - Agent inform christv_mainform_opened.
19:34:56.375: Inf - Activating Deinterlace ...
19:34:56.390: Inf - Creating Deinterlace Graph ...
19:34:56.437: Inf - NukeDown Completed.
19:34:56.437: inf - recreate_render_radio : 0
19:34:56.453: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:56.546: Inf1 - Deinterlace Filter added to the graph.
19:34:56.875: Inf - Deinterlace Graph - OK.
19:34:56.875: Inf - Deinterlace is ON.

Best regards,
Helen.

Have you tried to make a scan by frequency or channel table ?

Hello,
I tried frequency and UPC NL Channels and AL-BG channels.

Regards,
Helen

Same problem... tried every possible combination of settings.... with me there are no images at all in an always black scan screen.
As a satisfied customer, I've never had problems with this and previous versions of ChrisTV software on my old 2002 Medion machine.

Here are my driver settings at the new Medion MD8800:
Video capture source: 713x BDA Analog Capture
TV Tuner: 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner (grayed)
Tv Audio: 713x BDA Analog TV Audio (grayed)
TV Crossbar: 713x BDA Analog Xbar (grayed)
MPEG HWencoder: blank
Audio capture source: Realtek HD Audio Input

The log of the last trial seems more or less the same as Helen's :-)
23:53:45.812:
23:53:45.828:
23:53:45.843: --------------------------------------------------------------
23:53:45.859: --- ChrisTV Standard version 4.70 ---
23:53:45.890: --- Today : 24/11/2005 ---
23:53:45.906: --- ChrisTV is initializing ... ---
23:53:45.921: --- Checking System ... ---
23:53:45.937: --- Operating System Found : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build(2600) with DirectX 4.09.00.0904
23:53:45.953: --- ChrisTV is begining the graph filter ---
23:53:46.078: --- Video Window is rendered using VMR ---
23:53:46.093: Inf - Searching for DirectShow filters...
23:53:46.156: Inf - Dump Filter Found.
23:53:46.171: Inf - Video Port Manager Filter Found.
23:53:46.203: Inf - Deinterlace Filter NOT Found.
23:53:46.218: Inf - FFDShow Filter NOT Found.
23:53:46.234: Inf - Search Done.
23:53:46.281: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.312: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.343: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : Philips PCVC680 USB VGA Camera; Video
23:53:46.359: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Using : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.453: Inf - Creating the graph...
23:53:46.468: Inf - Setting Video Standard : 7
23:53:46.484: Inf - Done.
23:53:46.500: Inf - "Preview" : Preview Video Pin Found.
23:53:46.515: Inf - "Capture" : Capture Video Pin Found.
23:53:46.546: Inf - "Audio" : Audio Pin Found.
23:53:46.562: Inf - Capture Device - NO MPEG Hardware Encoder.
23:53:46.578: Inf - MPEG Hardware Encoder Disabled.
23:53:46.921: Inf2 - The Graph has been created.
23:53:46.937: Inf - InGraph : VideoWindow1
23:53:46.953: Inf - InGraph : TV Capture Filter
23:53:46.984: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.000: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Audio
23:53:47.015: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner
23:53:47.031: Err - Could not find IID_IAMCrossbar2 - required for some combo cards
23:53:47.046: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.062: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Tuner In : Pin : 3
23:53:47.078: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 3 : Pin : 4
23:53:47.093: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 4 : Pin : 5
23:53:47.125: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Decoder Out : Pin : 1
23:53:47.140: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.156: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Tuner In : 0
23:53:47.171: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Composite In : 1
23:53:47.187: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin S-Video In : 2
23:53:47.203: Inf - Crossbar Pin Video Decoder Out : 0
23:53:47.218: --- ChrisTV is disabling MSP ---
23:53:47.250: --- ChrisTV is OK ---
23:53:47.265: Inf - Channels.ini file is present
23:53:47.281: Inf - Preparing Crossbar...
23:53:47.593: Inf - Playing graph...
23:53:47.625: Inf - Graph is Playing ...
23:53:48.531: Inf - Loading settings...
23:53:48.546: Inf - Creating Video Settings Window ...
23:53:48.593: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
23:53:48.765: Inf - Video Window - 7
23:53:48.843: Inf - View Change - Preview Resolution : 640x480
23:53:49.156: Inf - Video Window - 8
23:53:49.171: Inf - Video Window - 9
23:53:49.203: Inf - Video Window - 10
23:53:49.218: Inf - Video Window - 11
23:53:49.296: Inf - Video Window - 12
23:53:49.343: Inf - Video Window - 13
23:53:49.406: Inf - Video Window - 14
23:53:49.531: Inf - Video Window - 15
23:53:49.796: Err - No sound device or input
23:53:49.859: Inf - Loading done.
23:53:50.031: Inf - Creating Channel Settings Window.
23:53:50.062: Inf - Loading TV Icons...
23:53:50.078: Inf - Searching for available TV Icons ...
23:53:50.234: Inf - TV Icons added : 188
23:53:50.250: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.265: Inf - Loading channels ...
23:53:50.296: Inf - Done1.
23:53:50.312: Inf - Done2.
23:53:50.328: Inf - Detecting modes available...
23:53:50.359: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.375: Inf - Tunning last channel...
23:53:50.390: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.406: Inf - Load channel settings...
23:53:51.250: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.281: Inf - Audio Crossbar
23:53:51.593: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.609: Inf - Country list...
23:53:51.671: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.875: Inf - Show Main Form...
23:53:51.890: Inf - Loading last settings.
23:53:51.906: Inf - The Channels Menu is being created now ...
23:53:51.968: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.984: Inf - Done.
23:53:52.000: Inf - Searching for available language files ...
23:53:52.015: Inf - Loading language ...
23:53:52.406: Inf - Done.
23:53:52.421: Inf - English language loaded.
23:53:52.453: Inf - Show Main Form Ended
23:53:52.500: Inf - MPEG Filters NOT Found.
23:53:52.687: Inf - Agent inform christv_mainform_opened.

Any idea what (combi of) settings to change?
Kind regards.
Trilobite

Some TV Card drivers are using different TV Frequency tunning, in this case you should try to Enable in Program Settings->Driver Settings->Advanced :

1. Use alternative channel frequency setting ( for some TV Cards)
2. Use special frequency tunning (for some TV Cards - MSI TV@nywhere)

Restart ChrisTV.

One of this settings or both enabled could fix your problem.

Hello Chris,

Tried your suggestions and many other settings again.
The best result I get is when VMR-9 is activated and one or both of the settings you suggested are activated. When I use scanning UPC channel list, the last found channel is visible (channel 183250), without sound. Every time I start ChrisTV the sound is muted.

Regards,
Helen

Unfortunately, none of the advised settings worked for me...

I tried to add a couple of channels manually for testing: add new channel worked correctly... : also the channel list displays the newly added channels, but selecting one results again in the black screen where the channel name is displayed for a few seconds... then disapears; leaving the screen dead (black). There is no sound either

So, I tried several settings in the Video Rendering and Improvement section, also tried to copy every setting from my "ChrisTV-working" old Medion... no result... there is still the black screen without any picture or sound..

Chris, what more can I do?
Trilobite

Does now ChrisTV finds the channels ?

Regarding sound, please check http://forum.chris-tv.com/index.php?showto...findpost&p=1901 point B

Hello Chris,

First: thank you for your fast replies, that's very nice.

I tried more or less the same as Trilobite. No results, except for the one channel.
In Germany there are some discussions about the Medion MD 8800. Hopefully your German is better than mine. See http://www.sceneo.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?...b346819cbf433e5
The card has a switch and when I understand the discussion well that might be the solution (for analog connection).

Looking forward to hear from you.
Regards,
Helen.

In Main Menu->Driver Settings->TV Tuner device, try to change the channels.

Have you tried to add 2 channels manually ? or when you try to change tv frequency or finetune a channel, do you see any TV image changing ?

Does the TV card software work correctly ?
Have you tried other 3rd party softwares ? Did any of them work ?

Please provide a download link for the tv card driver.

Dear Chris,
Got the pics now but scanning is still not working properly.

Here are my settings that brought me the pictures:
* Image and Sounsd settings > View options > have reset to default
* Video Rendering and Improvement settings > Use advanced Rendering Mode

You wrote:
(at manually added channels) when you try to change tv frequency or finetune a channel, do you see any TV image changing ?
Answer with me is Yes, they're responding

Device manager reports "This device is working properly" for both devices.
I've not tried 3rd party software (am a satisfied ChrisTv customer :-)
Driver= C:\windows\system32\drivers\3xHybrid.sys. Provider: Philps Semiconductors GmbH. File version 1.3.3.0. Date 17/10/2005

All automatic scan modes produce Black and White flickering of the black screen when the scanner finds potentially available channels (so, YES it IS detecting now), but it's still "Channels found: 0" and nothing is added to the channel list.

So far for now
Seems indeed that Helen and I are not the only ones having problems with this device... I will be following also the seneo.de discussion, reported by Helen

If there is anything you would like me to provide, please tell (I'll send 3xHybrid.sys by mail to you )

Regards,
Trilobite

no attachment option found..
please check
http://members.home.nl/m.eversdijk/
for the driver directory download
Trilobite

I'm not 100% sure, but it seems that during the scanning process everytime the same channel pops up in a fraction of a second.... it's hard to see, but it looks like continued interrupted frame pictures of the same source, not something like different screen shots of different sources...

Could this observation help?
Trilobite

Did you copied the Channels.ini from the old PC to this one ? When you change channels, is the tv frequency really changing, did you see other tv image ?

Also try this :
- go to channels settings and add a new TV channel.
- enter a frequency and click on the button next to the freq. editbox. and move left-right the freq. slider, do you see any changing in TV image, other tv channels ?

Does the TV card Software work correctly ?

In Main Menu->Driver Settings->TV Tuner device, try to change the channels.

Hello Chris,

I did not copy the .ini from my old PC but, as Trilobite did, I added the channels manually. Fine tuning freq. works and different frequencies are shown.
While channel search I see different channels in a flash, both by freq. and UPC channel search.

Later on I installed an update of Power Cinema from www.medion.de (dated 23-11-2005).
Changing channels in that program goes very slow, that's one of the reasons that I like ChrisTV so much.

Next ChrisTV was blanc, so I removed Power Cinema completely.
ChrisTV then worked again.
Still I see flashes of channels during scanning, no one is picked up though.
And changing channels takes much more time than on my old computer.

Really tried everything I could think of.
When I select the TV tuner device the channel is nr. 4 or 5. I haven't figured out yet what makes the difference.
The video standard in grey is PAL-B. But when I go to channel setting the video standard is PAL-I

Best regards,
Helen.