Medion Md 8800 & Asus With Philips Saa7131 Hybrid

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Medion Md 8800 & Asus With Philips Saa7131 Hybrid

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Edit by Chris : Please visit this topic to find the right settings for Medion MD 8800 - 7131 and Asus My Cinema-P7131 TV cards ( only analog TV Tuner is supported ) :
http://forum.chris-pc.com/viewtopic.php?p=9543#p9543" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

For ChrisTV Channels Lists, please visit this topic : http://forum.chris-tv.com/index.php?showtopic=917" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Hello,
I just bought a Medion MD 8800 with a NVidia Geforce 6700XL video card and a built in TV function: 4 TV connections (2x DVB-2 and 2x Analog)
According to the system info it is the famous Philips SAA7131.
Tried all setting as suggested in several topics. The sound does work.
During scanning flashes of channels are visible, not one is picked up though.
Since Chris TV is so much better then the standard TV program (fassst channel switching, resizing, etc.) I hope you can help me soon.

The log:
19:34:48.734: --------------------------------------------------------------
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV Professional version 4.70 ---
19:34:48.750: --- Today : 23-11-2005 ---
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV is starting now ... ---
19:34:48.750: --- Checking System ... ---
19:34:48.750: --- Operating System Found : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build(2600) with DirectX 4.09.00.0904
19:34:48.750: --- ChrisTV begining the graph filter ---
19:34:48.843: --- Video Window is rendered using VMR ---
19:34:48.843: Inf - Searching for DirectShow filters...
19:34:48.953: Inf - Image Processing Filter Found.
19:34:48.968: Inf - Deinterlace Filter Found.
19:34:49.000: Inf - Dump Filter Found.
19:34:49.015: Inf - Crop Filter Found.
19:34:49.031: Inf - Video Port Manager Filter Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - Wave Destination Filter Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - FFDShow Filter NOT Found.
19:34:49.062: Inf - Search Done.
19:34:49.093: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.125: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.125: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Using : 713x BDA Analog Capture
19:34:49.187: Inf - Creating the graph...
19:34:49.187: Inf - Searching ...
19:34:49.187: Inf - Setting Video Standard : 3
19:34:49.187: Inf - Done.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Voorbeeld" : Preview Video Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Vastleggen" : Capture Video Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - "Audio" : Audio Pin Found.
19:34:49.187: Inf - Capture Device - NO MPEG Hardware Encoder.
19:34:49.203: Inf - MPEG Hardware Encoder Disabled.
19:34:49.234: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:49.281: Inf - capture_pin_forced 1.
19:34:49.281: Inf1 - The Graph has been created.
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : Audio Renderer
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : VideoWindow1
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : TV Capture Filter
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Audio
19:34:49.281: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner
19:34:49.281: Err - Could not find IID_IAMCrossbar2 - required for some combo cards
19:34:49.281: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.281: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Tuner In : Pin : 3
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 3 : Pin : 4
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 4 : Pin : 5
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Decoder Out : Pin : 1
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Tuner In : 0
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Composite In : 1
19:34:49.296: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin S-Video In : 2
19:34:49.296: Inf - Crossbar Pin Video Decoder Out : 0
19:34:49.296: --- ChrisTV is disabling MSP ---
19:34:49.296: --- ChrisTV is OK ---
19:34:49.296: Inf - Channels.ini file is present
19:34:49.296: Inf - Preparing Crossbar...
19:34:49.609: Inf - Playing graph...
19:34:50.906: Inf - Graph is Playing ...
19:34:50.906: Inf - Deinterlace/FFDShow Filter timer ...
19:34:51.906: Inf - Loading settings...
19:34:51.937: Inf - Creating Video Settings Window ...
19:34:51.968: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
19:34:52.156: Inf - Video Window - 7
19:34:52.218: Inf - View Change - Preview Resolution : 640x480
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 8
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 9
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 10
19:34:52.531: Inf - Video Window - 11
19:34:52.578: Inf - Video Window - 12
19:34:52.578: Inf - Video Window - 13
19:34:52.609: Inf - Video Window - 14
19:34:52.671: Inf - Video Window - 15
19:34:52.703: Inf - Loading Settings 10/19 .
19:34:52.937: Err - No sound device or input
19:34:52.937: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
19:34:52.937: Inf - Loading done.
19:34:52.937: Inf - Recreating graph - VMR9+Advanced.
19:34:52.984: Inf - NukeDown Completed.
19:34:53.000: inf - recreate_render_radio : 0
19:34:53.000: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:53.109: Inf1 - Deinterlace Filter added to the graph.
19:34:53.437: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.625: Inf - Creating Channel Settings Window.
19:34:53.625: Inf - Loading TV Icons...
19:34:53.625: Inf - Searching for available TV Icons ...
19:34:53.781: Inf - TV Icons added : 188
19:34:53.781: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.781: Inf - Loading channels ...
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done1.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done2.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Detecting modes available...
19:34:53.796: Inf - Done.
19:34:53.796: Inf - Tunning last channel...
19:34:54.281: Inf - Last channel TV
19:34:54.281: Inf - Done.
19:34:54.281: Inf - Load channel settings...
19:34:55.109: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.109: Inf - Audio Crossbar
19:34:55.421: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.421: Inf - Country list...
19:34:55.468: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.671: Inf - Show Main Form...
19:34:55.671: Inf - Loading last settings.
19:34:55.687: Inf - The Channels Menu is being created now ...
19:34:55.718: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.718: Inf - Done.
19:34:55.718: Inf - Searching for available language files ...
19:34:55.718: Inf - Loading language ...
19:34:56.078: Inf - Done.
19:34:56.078: Inf - Dutch language loaded.
19:34:56.093: Inf - Show Main Form Ended
19:34:56.171: Inf - MPEG Filters NOT Found.
19:34:56.328: Inf - Agent inform christv_mainform_opened.
19:34:56.375: Inf - Activating Deinterlace ...
19:34:56.390: Inf - Creating Deinterlace Graph ...
19:34:56.437: Inf - NukeDown Completed.
19:34:56.437: inf - recreate_render_radio : 0
19:34:56.453: Inf - Rendering audio pin OK
19:34:56.546: Inf1 - Deinterlace Filter added to the graph.
19:34:56.875: Inf - Deinterlace Graph - OK.
19:34:56.875: Inf - Deinterlace is ON.

Best regards,
Helen.
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Post by Chris »

Have you tried to make a scan by frequency or channel table ?
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Post by Helen »

Hello,
I tried frequency and UPC NL Channels and AL-BG channels.

Regards,
Helen
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Post by trilobite »

Same problem... tried every possible combination of settings.... with me there are no images at all in an always black scan screen.
As a satisfied customer, I've never had problems with this and previous versions of ChrisTV software on my old 2002 Medion machine.

Here are my driver settings at the new Medion MD8800:
Video capture source: 713x BDA Analog Capture
TV Tuner: 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner (grayed)
Tv Audio: 713x BDA Analog TV Audio (grayed)
TV Crossbar: 713x BDA Analog Xbar (grayed)
MPEG HWencoder: blank
Audio capture source: Realtek HD Audio Input

The log of the last trial seems more or less the same as Helen's :-)
23:53:45.812:
23:53:45.828:
23:53:45.843: --------------------------------------------------------------
23:53:45.859: --- ChrisTV Standard version 4.70 ---
23:53:45.890: --- Today : 24/11/2005 ---
23:53:45.906: --- ChrisTV is initializing ... ---
23:53:45.921: --- Checking System ... ---
23:53:45.937: --- Operating System Found : Windows XP Service Pack 2 Build(2600) with DirectX 4.09.00.0904
23:53:45.953: --- ChrisTV is begining the graph filter ---
23:53:46.078: --- Video Window is rendered using VMR ---
23:53:46.093: Inf - Searching for DirectShow filters...
23:53:46.156: Inf - Dump Filter Found.
23:53:46.171: Inf - Video Port Manager Filter Found.
23:53:46.203: Inf - Deinterlace Filter NOT Found.
23:53:46.218: Inf - FFDShow Filter NOT Found.
23:53:46.234: Inf - Search Done.
23:53:46.281: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.312: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.343: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Found : Philips PCVC680 USB VGA Camera; Video
23:53:46.359: Inf - Video Capture Sources : Using : 713x BDA Analog Capture
23:53:46.453: Inf - Creating the graph...
23:53:46.468: Inf - Setting Video Standard : 7
23:53:46.484: Inf - Done.
23:53:46.500: Inf - "Preview" : Preview Video Pin Found.
23:53:46.515: Inf - "Capture" : Capture Video Pin Found.
23:53:46.546: Inf - "Audio" : Audio Pin Found.
23:53:46.562: Inf - Capture Device - NO MPEG Hardware Encoder.
23:53:46.578: Inf - MPEG Hardware Encoder Disabled.
23:53:46.921: Inf2 - The Graph has been created.
23:53:46.937: Inf - InGraph : VideoWindow1
23:53:46.953: Inf - InGraph : TV Capture Filter
23:53:46.984: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.000: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Audio
23:53:47.015: Inf - InGraph : 713x BDA Analog TV Tuner
23:53:47.031: Err - Could not find IID_IAMCrossbar2 - required for some combo cards
23:53:47.046: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.062: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Tuner In : Pin : 3
23:53:47.078: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 3 : Pin : 4
23:53:47.093: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Line In 4 : Pin : 5
23:53:47.125: Inf - Crossbar : Audio Decoder Out : Pin : 1
23:53:47.140: Inf - Crossbar : 713x BDA Analog Xbar
23:53:47.156: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Tuner In : 0
23:53:47.171: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin Video Composite In : 1
23:53:47.187: Inf - Using Crossbar Pin S-Video In : 2
23:53:47.203: Inf - Crossbar Pin Video Decoder Out : 0
23:53:47.218: --- ChrisTV is disabling MSP ---
23:53:47.250: --- ChrisTV is OK ---
23:53:47.265: Inf - Channels.ini file is present
23:53:47.281: Inf - Preparing Crossbar...
23:53:47.593: Inf - Playing graph...
23:53:47.625: Inf - Graph is Playing ...
23:53:48.531: Inf - Loading settings...
23:53:48.546: Inf - Creating Video Settings Window ...
23:53:48.593: Err - Sound Recording Input error.
23:53:48.765: Inf - Video Window - 7
23:53:48.843: Inf - View Change - Preview Resolution : 640x480
23:53:49.156: Inf - Video Window - 8
23:53:49.171: Inf - Video Window - 9
23:53:49.203: Inf - Video Window - 10
23:53:49.218: Inf - Video Window - 11
23:53:49.296: Inf - Video Window - 12
23:53:49.343: Inf - Video Window - 13
23:53:49.406: Inf - Video Window - 14
23:53:49.531: Inf - Video Window - 15
23:53:49.796: Err - No sound device or input
23:53:49.859: Inf - Loading done.
23:53:50.031: Inf - Creating Channel Settings Window.
23:53:50.062: Inf - Loading TV Icons...
23:53:50.078: Inf - Searching for available TV Icons ...
23:53:50.234: Inf - TV Icons added : 188
23:53:50.250: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.265: Inf - Loading channels ...
23:53:50.296: Inf - Done1.
23:53:50.312: Inf - Done2.
23:53:50.328: Inf - Detecting modes available...
23:53:50.359: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.375: Inf - Tunning last channel...
23:53:50.390: Inf - Done.
23:53:50.406: Inf - Load channel settings...
23:53:51.250: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.281: Inf - Audio Crossbar
23:53:51.593: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.609: Inf - Country list...
23:53:51.671: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.875: Inf - Show Main Form...
23:53:51.890: Inf - Loading last settings.
23:53:51.906: Inf - The Channels Menu is being created now ...
23:53:51.968: Inf - Done.
23:53:51.984: Inf - Done.
23:53:52.000: Inf - Searching for available language files ...
23:53:52.015: Inf - Loading language ...
23:53:52.406: Inf - Done.
23:53:52.421: Inf - English language loaded.
23:53:52.453: Inf - Show Main Form Ended
23:53:52.500: Inf - MPEG Filters NOT Found.
23:53:52.687: Inf - Agent inform christv_mainform_opened.

Any idea what (combi of) settings to change?
Kind regards.
Trilobite
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Post by Chris »

Some TV Card drivers are using different TV Frequency tunning, in this case you should try to Enable in Program Settings->Driver Settings->Advanced :

1. Use alternative channel frequency setting ( for some TV Cards)
2. Use special frequency tunning (for some TV Cards - MSI TV@nywhere)

Restart ChrisTV.

One of this settings or both enabled could fix your problem.
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Post by Helen »

Hello Chris,

Tried your suggestions and many other settings again.
The best result I get is when VMR-9 is activated and one or both of the settings you suggested are activated. When I use scanning UPC channel list, the last found channel is visible (channel 183250), without sound. Every time I start ChrisTV the sound is muted.

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Post by trilobite »

Unfortunately, none of the advised settings worked for me...

I tried to add a couple of channels manually for testing: add new channel worked correctly... : also the channel list displays the newly added channels, but selecting one results again in the black screen where the channel name is displayed for a few seconds... then disapears; leaving the screen dead (black). There is no sound either

So, I tried several settings in the Video Rendering and Improvement section, also tried to copy every setting from my "ChrisTV-working" old Medion... no result... there is still the black screen without any picture or sound..

Chris, what more can I do?
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Post by Chris »

Does now ChrisTV finds the channels ?

Regarding sound, please check http://forum.chris-tv.com/index.php?sho ... ost&p=1901 point B
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Post by Helen »

Hello Chris,

First: thank you for your fast replies, that's very nice.

I tried more or less the same as Trilobite. No results, except for the one channel.
In Germany there are some discussions about the Medion MD 8800. Hopefully your German is better than mine. See http://www.sceneo.de/phpBB2/viewtopic.p ... 19cbf433e5
The card has a switch and when I understand the discussion well that might be the solution (for analog connection).

Looking forward to hear from you.
Regards,
Helen.
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Post by Chris »

In Main Menu->Driver Settings->TV Tuner device, try to change the channels.

Have you tried to add 2 channels manually ? or when you try to change tv frequency or finetune a channel, do you see any TV image changing ?

Does the TV card software work correctly ?
Have you tried other 3rd party softwares ? Did any of them work ?

Please provide a download link for the tv card driver.
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